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AND DEADLINE WHITE HOUSE WITH NICOLLE WALLACE BEGINS RIGHT NICOLLE WALLACE BEGINS RIGHT NOW. NOW.>>>HI, EVERYONE.>>>HI, EVERYONE. IT IS 4:00 IN NEW YORK. IT IS 4:00 IN NEW YORK. TODAY, THE FIRST DAY OF THE REST TODAY, THE FIRST DAY OF THE REST OF DONALD TRUMP’S PRESIDENCY. OF DONALD TRUMP’S PRESIDENCY. DAY ONE OF THE PUBLIC PHASE OF DAY ONE OF THE PUBLIC PHASE OF DONALD TRUMP’S IMPEACHMENT, AND DONALD TRUMP’S IMPEACHMENT, AND IT HAS ALREADY BEEN MARKED BY IT HAS ALREADY BEEN MARKED BY MANY OF THE SAME FLASH POINTS MANY OF THE SAME FLASH POINTS THAT GOT HIM TO THIS POINT. THAT GOT HIM TO THIS POINT. RIDICULOUS UTTERANCES FROM THE RIDICULOUS UTTERANCES FROM THE PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT. A PROPOSAL TO READ THE A PROPOSAL TO READ THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE PHONE CALL AT TRANSCRIPT OF THE PHONE CALL AT THE CENTER OF THE SCANDAL TO THE THE CENTER OF THE SCANDAL TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, FIRESIDE AMERICAN PUBLIC, FIRESIDE CHAT-STYLE. CHAT-STYLE. REALLY. REALLY. AND A COMMITMENT FROM ADAM AND A COMMITMENT FROM ADAM SCHIFF, CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE SCHIFF, CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE INTEL COMMITTEE, ONE OF THE INTEL COMMITTEE, ONE OF THE COMMITTEES CONDUCTING THE HOUSE COMMITTEES CONDUCTING THE HOUSE INVESTIGATION, TO START INVESTIGATION, TO START RELEASING TRANSCRIPTS OF THE RELEASING TRANSCRIPTS OF THE CLOSED DOOR DEPOSITIONS. CLOSED DOOR DEPOSITIONS. DEPOSITIONS THAT HAVE YIELDED DEPOSITIONS THAT HAVE YIELDED BLOCKBUSTER EVIDENCE OF A QUID BLOCKBUSTER EVIDENCE OF A QUID PRO QUO, FROM DIPLOMATS, PRO QUO, FROM DIPLOMATS, MILITARY ADVISERS, AND FOREIGN MILITARY ADVISERS, AND FOREIGN POLICY EXPERTS. POLICY EXPERTS. AND NEXT WEEK’S IMPEACHMENT AND NEXT WEEK’S IMPEACHMENT SCHEDULE THREATENS THE PRESIDENT SCHEDULE THREATENS THE PRESIDENT WITH EVEN MORE DEVASTATING WITH EVEN MORE DEVASTATING TESTIMONY FROM PEOPLE WITH TESTIMONY FROM PEOPLE WITH GREATER PROXIMITY TO THE GREATER PROXIMITY TO THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF. PRESIDENT HIMSELF. AS THE HOUSE PREPARES TO TAKE AS THE HOUSE PREPARES TO TAKE ITS CASE AGAINST THE PRESIDENT ITS CASE AGAINST THE PRESIDENT PUBLIC, THERE ARE SIGNS OF PUBLIC, THERE ARE SIGNS OF CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM AMONG CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM AMONG DEMOCRATS, ABOUT THE STRENGTH OF DEMOCRATS, ABOUT THE STRENGTH OF THE EVIDENCE AGAINST TRUMP. THE EVIDENCE AGAINST TRUMP. “POLITICO” REPORTS, QUOTE, AS “POLITICO” REPORTS, QUOTE, AS THE CLOSED DOOR DEPOSITION PHASE THE CLOSED DOOR DEPOSITION PHASE WRAPS UP, DEMOCRATS ARE SETTING WRAPS UP, DEMOCRATS ARE SETTING THE STAGE FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS THE STAGE FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS WITH THE WITNESSES WHO PROVIDED WITH THE WITNESSES WHO PROVIDED THE MOST COMPELLING EVIDENCE. THE MOST COMPELLING EVIDENCE. SUCH AS AMBASSADOR BILL TAYLOR SUCH AS AMBASSADOR BILL TAYLOR AND COLONEL VINDMAN. AND COLONEL VINDMAN. THE DEMOCRATS ALSO INTEND TO THE DEMOCRATS ALSO INTEND TO LEAN HEAVILY ON THE EVIDENCE LEAN HEAVILY ON THE EVIDENCE PROVIDED BY TRUMP HIMSELF. PROVIDED BY TRUMP HIMSELF. THE TRANSCRIPT OF HIS JULY 25th THE TRANSCRIPT OF HIS JULY 25th CALL WITH PRESIDENT ZELENSKY IN CALL WITH PRESIDENT ZELENSKY IN WHICH HE ASKED THE NEWLY-ELECTED WHICH HE ASKED THE NEWLY-ELECTED LEADER TO PURSUE AN LEADER TO PURSUE AN INVESTIGATION OF BIDEN. INVESTIGATION OF BIDEN. NOW, TRUMP’S ANSWER TO ALL THIS? NOW, TRUMP’S ANSWER TO ALL THIS? DO A MADHOUSE STYLE DRAMATIC DO A MADHOUSE STYLE DRAMATIC READING BETWEEN THE PHONE CALL READING BETWEEN THE PHONE CALL OF HIMSELF AND PRESIDENT OF HIMSELF AND PRESIDENT ZELENSKY THAT A TRUMP ALLY TOLD ZELENSKY THAT A TRUMP ALLY TOLD ME TODAY, TRUMP STILL MAINTAINS ME TODAY, TRUMP STILL MAINTAINS PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY IS PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY IS PERFECT IN EVERY WAY. PERFECT IN EVERY WAY. TRUMP TELLING THE WASHINGTON TRUMP TELLING THE WASHINGTON EXAMINER IN AN INTERVIEW EXAMINER IN AN INTERVIEW YESTERDAY, QUOTE, AT SOME POINT, YESTERDAY, QUOTE, AT SOME POINT, I’M GOING TO SIT DOWN, PERHAPS I’M GOING TO SIT DOWN, PERHAPS AS A FIRESIDE CHAT ON LIVE AS A FIRESIDE CHAT ON LIVE TELEVISION AND I WILL READ THE TELEVISION AND I WILL READ THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE CALL, BECAUSE TRANSCRIPT OF THE CALL, BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO HEAR IT. PEOPLE HAVE TO HEAR IT. WHEN YOU READ IT, IT’S A WHEN YOU READ IT, IT’S A STRAIGHT CALL. STRAIGHT CALL. IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT’S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT’S A SUMMARY OF THE CALL. A SUMMARY OF THE CALL. AND EVEN THE SUMMARY MAKES CLEAR AND EVEN THE SUMMARY MAKES CLEAR THAT MILITARY AID AND A MEETING THAT MILITARY AID AND A MEETING WERE BOTH CONDITIONAL. WERE BOTH CONDITIONAL. TRUMP RESPONDING TO THE TRUMP RESPONDING TO THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT’S REQUEST UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT’S REQUEST FOR MILITARY ASSISTANCE, BY FOR MILITARY ASSISTANCE, BY SAYING, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO SAYING, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO US A FAVOR THOUGH. US A FAVOR THOUGH. THEN PUSHING FOR THOSE THEN PUSHING FOR THOSE INVESTIGATIONS TARGETING INVESTIGATIONS TARGETING DEMOCRATS, INCLUDING JOE BIDEN. DEMOCRATS, INCLUDING JOE BIDEN. IT’S CONDUCT THAT NEARLY IT’S CONDUCT THAT NEARLY TWO-THIRDS OF AMERICANS TODAY TWO-THIRDS OF AMERICANS TODAY CALL A QUOTE SERIOUS PROBLEM. CALL A QUOTE SERIOUS PROBLEM. AND IT’S CONDUCT THAT HAS BEEN AND IT’S CONDUCT THAT HAS BEEN CORROBORATED BY MULTIPLE AIDES, CORROBORATED BY MULTIPLE AIDES, SINCE THAT ORIGINAL SINCE THAT ORIGINAL WHISTLE-BLOWER COMPLAINT. WHISTLE-BLOWER COMPLAINT. ITS CONDUCT THAT CAUSED ALARM ITS CONDUCT THAT CAUSED ALARM DEEP, DEEP INSIDE THE WEST WING, DEEP, DEEP INSIDE THE WEST WING, AT THE TIME, AS WELL. AT THE TIME, AS WELL. IN FACT, THE SCANDALS IN FACT, THE SCANDALS INCREASINGLY FOCUSING IN ON THE INCREASINGLY FOCUSING IN ON THE CONDUCT OF THE LAWYERS WHO CONDUCT OF THE LAWYERS WHO LOCKED DOWN THE NOTES FROM THE LOCKED DOWN THE NOTES FROM THE PRESIDENT’S CALL. PRESIDENT’S CALL. THAT’S WHERE WE START TODAY WITH THAT’S WHERE WE START TODAY WITH SOME OF OUR FAVORITE REPORTERS SOME OF OUR FAVORITE REPORTERS AND FRIENDS. AND FRIENDS. PETER BAKER CHIEF WHITE HOUSE PETER BAKER CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT FOR “THE NEW YORK CORRESPONDENT FOR “THE NEW YORK TIMES,” FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY, TIMES,” FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY, JOYCE VANCE, AND FORMER JOYCE VANCE, AND FORMER ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE AT THE FBI COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE AT THE FBI FRANK FIGLIUZZI, AND HEIDI AND FRANK FIGLIUZZI, AND HEIDI AND TIM O’BRIEN ARE BACK. TIM O’BRIEN ARE BACK.>>AND PETER, PETE BAKER, LET ME>>AND PETER, PETE BAKER, LET ME START WITH YOU. START WITH YOU. TAKE US THROUGH SORT OF THE TAKE US THROUGH SORT OF THE STATE OF DONALD TRUMP’S STATE OF DONALD TRUMP’S ACCEPTANCE OF HIS NEW REALITY. ACCEPTANCE OF HIS NEW REALITY. I’M TOLD TODAY, THAT HE I’M TOLD TODAY, THAT HE MAINTAINS PRIVATELY AND PUBLICLY MAINTAINS PRIVATELY AND PUBLICLY THAT THAT CALL, THAT THE WHITE THAT THAT CALL, THAT THE WHITE HOUSE LAWYERS THOUGHT WAS SO HOUSE LAWYERS THOUGHT WAS SO POTENTIALLY PROBLEMATIC FOR HIM, POTENTIALLY PROBLEMATIC FOR HIM, THAT THEY LOCKED IT DOWN, INSIDE THAT THEY LOCKED IT DOWN, INSIDE A SERVER, RESERVED FOR COVERT A SERVER, RESERVED FOR COVERT PROTECTED INTELLIGENCE, IS PROTECTED INTELLIGENCE, IS SOMETHING THAT DONALD TRUMP SOMETHING THAT DONALD TRUMP STILL MAINTAINS IS PERFECT. STILL MAINTAINS IS PERFECT.>>YES, IT IS THE THING, BECAUSE>>YES, IT IS THE THING, BECAUSE HE DOESN’T SEE IT THE WAY ALMOST HE DOESN’T SEE IT THE WAY ALMOST ANYBODY ELSE DOUSE OR A HANDFUL ANYBODY ELSE DOUSE OR A HANDFUL OBVIOUSLY IN THE REPUBLICAN OBVIOUSLY IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ON THE HILL WHO AGREE WITH PARTY ON THE HILL WHO AGREE WITH HIM, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HIM, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE CALL BUT MOST REPUBLICANS THE CALL BUT MOST REPUBLICANS ARE NOT MAKING THAT ARGUMENT, ARE NOT MAKING THAT ARGUMENT, MOST REPUBLICANS ARE MAKING ONE MOST REPUBLICANS ARE MAKING ONE OF TWO ARGUMENTS, THE PROCESS IS OF TWO ARGUMENTS, THE PROCESS IS BAD AND A DEMOCRATIC EFFORT TO BAD AND A DEMOCRATIC EFFORT TO UNDUE AN ELECTION AND THE OTHER UNDUE AN ELECTION AND THE OTHER HE MIGHT HAVE SAID SOME THINGS HE MIGHT HAVE SAID SOME THINGS ON THERE THAT WERE TROUBLING BUT ON THERE THAT WERE TROUBLING BUT IT MIGHT NOT RISES TO THE LEVEL IT MIGHT NOT RISES TO THE LEVEL OF AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE. OF AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE. VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE SAYING IT IS VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE SAYING IT IS TOTALLY OKAY TO GO OUT THERE AND TOTALLY OKAY TO GO OUT THERE AND ASK A FOREIGN COUNTRY FOR HELP ASK A FOREIGN COUNTRY FOR HELP AGAINST DOMESTIC POLITICAL AGAINST DOMESTIC POLITICAL RIVALRIES. RIVALRIES. THE PRESIDENT IS ALONE IN THAT. THE PRESIDENT IS ALONE IN THAT. HE SAID IN THE TWITTER FEED THIS HE SAID IN THE TWITTER FEED THIS WEEK, DON’T JUST FIGHT ON THE WEEK, DON’T JUST FIGHT ON THE PROCESS, FIGHT ON THE SUBSTANCE PROCESS, FIGHT ON THE SUBSTANCE AND THE SUBSTANCE IS GOOD AND AND THE SUBSTANCE IS GOOD AND THAT’S WHY HE SAID HE MIGHT READ THAT’S WHY HE SAID HE MIGHT READ THE TRANSCRIPT OUT LOUD IN SOME THE TRANSCRIPT OUT LOUD IN SOME SORT OF A FIRESIDE CHAT. SORT OF A FIRESIDE CHAT. BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK THE BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK THE PROBLEM IS, IT IS NOT JUST THE PROBLEM IS, IT IS NOT JUST THE CALL ITSELF. CALL ITSELF. NO T-IS NOT JUST THE WORDS THERE NO T-IS NOT JUST THE WORDS THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE. IN BLACK AND WHITE. IT IS THE CONTEXT IN WHICH THEY IT IS THE CONTEXT IN WHICH THEY HAPPENED. HAPPENED. AND THE CONTEXT WE’VE SEEN AND THE CONTEXT WE’VE SEEN TESTIFIED TO BY THE PEOPLE WHO TESTIFIED TO BY THE PEOPLE WHO WORK BY THIS PRESIDENT, NOT BY WORK BY THIS PRESIDENT, NOT BY OUTSIDERS BUT PEOPLE WORKING FOR OUTSIDERS BUT PEOPLE WORKING FOR HIM AND INSIDE THE LOOP, AND HIM AND INSIDE THE LOOP, AND DISTURBED BY WHAT THEY SAW AND DISTURBED BY WHAT THEY SAW AND WHAT THEY WERE HEARING. WHAT THEY WERE HEARING.>>FRANK, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU>>FRANK, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU JUST TO PICK UP THIS THREAD. JUST TO PICK UP THIS THREAD. THIS IDEA THAT THERE IS A THIS IDEA THAT THERE IS A DEFENSE ON THE SUBSTANCE SEEMS DEFENSE ON THE SUBSTANCE SEEMS TO BE A BELIEF HELD BY ONE. TO BE A BELIEF HELD BY ONE. AND MAYBE SOME OF THE PEOPLE AND MAYBE SOME OF THE PEOPLE RELATED TO HIM. RELATED TO HIM. I TALKED TO SOMEONE CLOSE TO I TALKED TO SOMEONE CLOSE TO THIS PRESIDENT AND SAID THAT THE THIS PRESIDENT AND SAID THAT THE REASON THIS IS HURTING HIM IN REASON THIS IS HURTING HIM IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION, THE THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION, THE REASON THE POLLS HAVE SWUNG SO REASON THE POLLS HAVE SWUNG SO FAR IN FAVOR OF IMPEACHMENT, IS FAR IN FAVOR OF IMPEACHMENT, IS BECAUSE IT WAS HARD TO BELIEVE BECAUSE IT WAS HARD TO BELIEVE THAT DONALD TRUMP HAD THE THAT DONALD TRUMP HAD THE SOPHISTICATION OR THE SOPHISTICATION OR THE COMMUNICATION SKILLS TO HASH OUT COMMUNICATION SKILLS TO HASH OUT AN ELABORATE CONSPIRACY WITH AN ELABORATE CONSPIRACY WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN, BUT THIS, A DEAL VLADIMIR PUTIN, BUT THIS, A DEAL WITH THE UKRAINIAN’S DIRT FOR WITH THE UKRAINIAN’S DIRT FOR GUNS, DIRT FOR AID, TOTALLY GUNS, DIRT FOR AID, TOTALLY BELIEVABLE. BELIEVABLE.>>WELL, LOOK, THEY PAINTED>>WELL, LOOK, THEY PAINTED THEMSELVES INTO A CORNER, THEMSELVES INTO A CORNER, BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS NOT ON THIS BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS NOT ON THIS PRESIDENT’S SIDE. PRESIDENT’S SIDE. THE PROCESS ARGUMENT ACTUALLY THE PROCESS ARGUMENT ACTUALLY HAD SOME MERIT TO IT. HAD SOME MERIT TO IT. IT WASN’T ACCURATE. IT WASN’T ACCURATE. BUT PEOPLE COULD SAY HEY, THIS BUT PEOPLE COULD SAY HEY, THIS IS BEING DONE IN SECRET. IS BEING DONE IN SECRET. I DON’T LIKE THAT. I DON’T LIKE THAT. WELL, GUESS WHAT? WELL, GUESS WHAT? WE’VE SHIFTED NOW TOWARD WHAT’S WE’VE SHIFTED NOW TOWARD WHAT’S GOING TO BECOME VERY, VERY GOING TO BECOME VERY, VERY PUBLIC. PUBLIC. AND IT IS GOING TO BECOME VERY, AND IT IS GOING TO BECOME VERY, VERY UGLY. VERY UGLY. SO THIS STRATEGY NOW, OF GETTING SO THIS STRATEGY NOW, OF GETTING THINGS OUT, PERHAPS EVEN IN A THINGS OUT, PERHAPS EVEN IN A FIRESIDE CHAT, AND BY THE WAY, FIRESIDE CHAT, AND BY THE WAY, IF I CAN BORROW A PHRASE FROM IF I CAN BORROW A PHRASE FROM JIM COMEY, LORDY, I HOPE THERE’S JIM COMEY, LORDY, I HOPE THERE’S A FIRESIDE CHAT, BECAUSE IT’S A FIRESIDE CHAT, BECAUSE IT’S NOT GOING TO, IT’S NOT GOING TO NOT GOING TO, IT’S NOT GOING TO GO WELL FOR THE PRESIDENT. GO WELL FOR THE PRESIDENT. HE’S ESSENTIALLY GOING TO SIT HE’S ESSENTIALLY GOING TO SIT THERE AND READ, PERHAPS WITH A THERE AND READ, PERHAPS WITH A YULE LOG CRACKLING IN THE YULE LOG CRACKLING IN THE BACKGROUND, READ WHAT IS BACKGROUND, READ WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY A CONFESSION OF HIS ESSENTIALLY A CONFESSION OF HIS OWN CRIME. OWN CRIME. AND OF COURSE, WE KNOW IT IS A AND OF COURSE, WE KNOW IT IS A SUMMARY THAT HE WOULD READ. SUMMARY THAT HE WOULD READ. A SUMMARY OF HIS CHOOSING. A SUMMARY OF HIS CHOOSING. BUT THE FACT, I HOPE HE READS BUT THE FACT, I HOPE HE READS IT. IT. THERE ARE FBI CASES, I THERE ARE FBI CASES, I SUPERVISED, AND I’M THINKING OF SUPERVISED, AND I’M THINKING OF TWO IN PARTICULAR, WHERE WE TWO IN PARTICULAR, WHERE WE FIRST GOT ANGRY BECAUSE THE FIRST GOT ANGRY BECAUSE THE DEFENDANT WAS GOING ON RADIO AND DEFENDANT WAS GOING ON RADIO AND TELEVISION, AND THEN WE REALIZED TELEVISION, AND THEN WE REALIZED HE’S CONFESSING, ON RADIO AND HE’S CONFESSING, ON RADIO AND TELEVISION. TELEVISION. LET HIM TALK ALL THAT HE WANTS. LET HIM TALK ALL THAT HE WANTS. SO LET’S HOPE THAT THERE’S A SO LET’S HOPE THAT THERE’S A FIRESIDE CHAT. FIRESIDE CHAT. AND WHY? AND WHY? BECAUSE THE TRUTH STRATEGY, GET BECAUSE THE TRUTH STRATEGY, GET IT OUT THERE, SAY I DID IT, SO IT OUT THERE, SAY I DID IT, SO WHAT, IS NOT GOING TO SERVE HIM WHAT, IS NOT GOING TO SERVE HIM WELL. WELL.>>JOYCE, IT’S AN INTERESTING>>JOYCE, IT’S AN INTERESTING POINT, AND I’M GLAD FRANK DIDN’T POINT, AND I’M GLAD FRANK DIDN’T LET ME GO OFF OVER IT, BUT I LET ME GO OFF OVER IT, BUT I CONSTANTLY COME BACK TO THE CONSTANTLY COME BACK TO THE DIFFERENCES, THE WAYS THAT THIS DIFFERENCES, THE WAYS THAT THIS FIVE-WEEK IMPEACHMENT FIVE-WEEK IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATION ARE DIFFERENT FROM INVESTIGATION ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE 23 MONTH LONG MUELLER THE 23 MONTH LONG MUELLER INVESTIGATION. INVESTIGATION. ONE OF THEM IS THAT DONALD TRUMP ONE OF THEM IS THAT DONALD TRUMP ISN’T PROTECTED BY ALL OF THE ISN’T PROTECTED BY ALL OF THE STRUCTURAL THINGS INSIDE THE STRUCTURAL THINGS INSIDE THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROCEDURE AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROCEDURE AND PROCESS. PROCESS. THIS IS A POLITICAL PROCESS. THIS IS A POLITICAL PROCESS. AND POLITICALLY IT WOULD SEEM AND POLITICALLY IT WOULD SEEM THAT THE THING THAT HE COULD DO, THAT THE THING THAT HE COULD DO, THAT COULD MOST DRAMATICALLY THAT COULD MOST DRAMATICALLY SWING PUBLIC OPINION, AGAINST SWING PUBLIC OPINION, AGAINST HIM, IS CONFESS IN A NATIONALLY HIM, IS CONFESS IN A NATIONALLY TELEVISED ADDRESS. TELEVISED ADDRESS. I HOPE HE DOES IT, TOO. I HOPE HE DOES IT, TOO.>>WELL, HE TALKS ABOUT DOING A>>WELL, HE TALKS ABOUT DOING A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEVER LOT OF THINGS THAT NEVER ACTUALLY COME TO PASS. ACTUALLY COME TO PASS. BUT I’M WITH YOU AND FRANK. BUT I’M WITH YOU AND FRANK. I’D LIKE TO SEE THE FIRESIDE I’D LIKE TO SEE THE FIRESIDE CHAT. CHAT. BECAUSE IF THIS, THAT HE THINKS BECAUSE IF THIS, THAT HE THINKS IT IS EXCULPATORY, IF THAT IS IT IS EXCULPATORY, IF THAT IS HIS IDEA OF A GOOD CALL, I WOULD HIS IDEA OF A GOOD CALL, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE REAL TRANSCRIPT LIKE TO SEE THE REAL TRANSCRIPT AND WHAT ELSE IS ON THE SERVER, AND WHAT ELSE IS ON THE SERVER, WHETHER IT IS ANOTHER MEMO OR WHETHER IT IS ANOTHER MEMO OR ACTUAL TRANSCRIPT. ACTUAL TRANSCRIPT. THIS NEVER GETS BETTER FOR TRUMP THIS NEVER GETS BETTER FOR TRUMP THAN THE VERSION OF THIS THAT THAN THE VERSION OF THIS THAT HE’S RELEASED HIMSELF. HE’S RELEASED HIMSELF. AND AS YOU SAY, HE’S BENEFITTED AND AS YOU SAY, HE’S BENEFITTED SO MUCH IN THE MUELLER SO MUCH IN THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION, FROM THE FACT INVESTIGATION, FROM THE FACT THAT THERE WERE CAREER THAT THERE WERE CAREER PROFESSIONAL PROSECUTORS WHO I PROFESSIONAL PROSECUTORS WHO I KNOW SOMETIMES IT IS IN VOGUE TO KNOW SOMETIMES IT IS IN VOGUE TO CRITICIZE PROSECUTORS BUT FOR CRITICIZE PROSECUTORS BUT FOR BETTER OR WORSE, THEIR GOAL WAS BETTER OR WORSE, THEIR GOAL WAS TO DO JUSTICE, NOT TO TRY TO TO DO JUSTICE, NOT TO TRY TO RAILROAD PEOPLE. RAILROAD PEOPLE. SO AT EVERY STAGE OF THE MUELLER SO AT EVERY STAGE OF THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION, THEY PARTICIPATED INVESTIGATION, THEY PARTICIPATED IN PROTECTIONS THAT WERE MEANT IN PROTECTIONS THAT WERE MEANT TO KEEP TARGETS, AND SUBJECTS TO KEEP TARGETS, AND SUBJECTS SAFE, AND TO NOT UNDULY SAFE, AND TO NOT UNDULY PREJUDICE PEOPLE AGAINST THEM. PREJUDICE PEOPLE AGAINST THEM. HE DOESN’T HAVE THAT IN THIS HE DOESN’T HAVE THAT IN THIS POLITICAL PROCESS. POLITICAL PROCESS. IT’S A NEW BALL GAME. IT’S A NEW BALL GAME.>>OKAY, YOU’VE ALL TALKED ABOUT>>OKAY, YOU’VE ALL TALKED ABOUT EVIDENCE. EVIDENCE. SPEAKING OF EVIDENCE, LESS THAN SPEAKING OF EVIDENCE, LESS THAN ONE MONTH SINCE THE HOUSE BEGAN ONE MONTH SINCE THE HOUSE BEGAN TAKING DEPOSITIONS IN THE TAKING DEPOSITIONS IN THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, INTO DONALD IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, INTO DONALD TRUMP, THE TESTIMONY FROM A TRUMP, THE TESTIMONY FROM A COMBINATION OF CAREER OFFICIALS, COMBINATION OF CAREER OFFICIALS, AND LOYAL TRUMP DEFENDERS ALIKE, AND LOYAL TRUMP DEFENDERS ALIKE, HAS PRODUCED A MOUNTAIN OF HAS PRODUCED A MOUNTAIN OF EVIDENCE. EVIDENCE. UNIVERSALLY DAMAGING TO THE UNIVERSALLY DAMAGING TO THE PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT. IN INTERVIEWS WITH 13 WITNESSES IN INTERVIEWS WITH 13 WITNESSES SO FAR, MORE THAN 100 TOTAL SO FAR, MORE THAN 100 TOTAL HOURS OF TESTIMONY, NOT ONE HOURS OF TESTIMONY, NOT ONE WITNESS HAS PROVIDED TESTIMONY WITNESS HAS PROVIDED TESTIMONY THAT EXONERATES PRESIDENT TRUMP, THAT EXONERATES PRESIDENT TRUMP, OR REFUTES A SINGLE ONE OF THE OR REFUTES A SINGLE ONE OF THE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST HIM FROM THE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST HIM FROM THE WHISTLE-BLOWER COMPLAINT OR THE WHISTLE-BLOWER COMPLAINT OR THE TESTIMONY OF HIS OWN TOP TESTIMONY OF HIS OWN TOP OFFICIALS. OFFICIALS. ON TOP OF THAT, AT LEAST FOUR ON TOP OF THAT, AT LEAST FOUR CURRENT AND FORMER OFFICIALS CURRENT AND FORMER OFFICIALS HAVE CONFIRMED AND TESTIFIED TO HAVE CONFIRMED AND TESTIFIED TO A QUID PRO QUO, WITH UKRAINE. A QUID PRO QUO, WITH UKRAINE. LINKING MILITARY AID AND A LINKING MILITARY AID AND A MEETING WITH TRUMP TO MEETING WITH TRUMP TO INVESTIGATIONS AGAINST TRUMP’S INVESTIGATIONS AGAINST TRUMP’S RIVALS IN OTHER MATTERS. RIVALS IN OTHER MATTERS. AT LEAST TWO OFFICIALS SAY THEY AT LEAST TWO OFFICIALS SAY THEY WERE SO ALARMED BY THE CONDUCT WERE SO ALARMED BY THE CONDUCT THEY WITNESSED THAT THEY TOOK THEY WITNESSED THAT THEY TOOK THOSE CONCERNS STRAIGHT TO THE THOSE CONCERNS STRAIGHT TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL’S TOP NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL’S TOP LAWYER JOHN EISENBERG AND AT LAWYER JOHN EISENBERG AND AT LEAST SEARCH WITNESSES HAVE LEAST SEARCH WITNESSES HAVE DESCRIBED A SHADOW FOREIGN DESCRIBED A SHADOW FOREIGN POLICY BY TRUMP’S PERSONAL POLICY BY TRUMP’S PERSONAL ATTORNEY RUDY GIULIANI. ATTORNEY RUDY GIULIANI. HE IS THE ONE WHO HELPED PEDAL HE IS THE ONE WHO HELPED PEDAL CONSPIRACY THEORIES LINKED TO CONSPIRACY THEORIES LINKED TO UKRAINE AND PRESSURED UKRAINIANS UKRAINE AND PRESSURED UKRAINIANS TO DO DONALD TRUMP’S BIDDING. TO DO DONALD TRUMP’S BIDDING. AND NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER AND NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER JOHN BOLTON, HARDLY A DEEP STATE JOHN BOLTON, HARDLY A DEEP STATE OPERATIVE, CALLED GIULIANI A OPERATIVE, CALLED GIULIANI A HAND GRENADE WHO IS GOING TO HAND GRENADE WHO IS GOING TO BLOW EVERYBODY UP AND ADDED ON BLOW EVERYBODY UP AND ADDED ON THE PRESSURE CAMPAIGN AGAINST THE PRESSURE CAMPAIGN AGAINST UKRAINE, QUOTE, I’M NOT PART OF UKRAINE, QUOTE, I’M NOT PART OF WHATEVER DRUG DEAL GORDON WHATEVER DRUG DEAL GORDON SONDLAND AND MICK MULVANEY ARE SONDLAND AND MICK MULVANEY ARE COOKING UP. COOKING UP. TIM O’BRIEN, IT WOULD SEEM THAT, TIM O’BRIEN, IT WOULD SEEM THAT, AS FRANK SAID, THE PROCESS AS FRANK SAID, THE PROCESS ARGUMENT THEY WERE ARGUING ARGUMENT THEY WERE ARGUING BEFORE THE PROCESS CONCERNS WERE BEFORE THE PROCESS CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED BY NANCY PELOSI, WAS ADDRESSED BY NANCY PELOSI, WAS THE ONLY HAND THEY HAD TO PLAY. THE ONLY HAND THEY HAD TO PLAY. ON SUBSTANCE, SO FAR, NOT A ON SUBSTANCE, SO FAR, NOT A SCRAP OF EVIDENCE THAT TURNS SCRAP OF EVIDENCE THAT TURNS THIS IN ANY DIRECTION FAVORABLE THIS IN ANY DIRECTION FAVORABLE TO THE PRESIDENT. TO THE PRESIDENT.>>THAT’S TRUE.>>THAT’S TRUE. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE PRESIDENT IS IN THIS PLACE WHERE PRESIDENT IS IN THIS PLACE WHERE HE IS DENYING THE REALITY OF HE IS DENYING THE REALITY OF WHAT HE IS FACING, WHICH HE HAS WHAT HE IS FACING, WHICH HE HAS DONE HISTORICALLY ANY TIME HE DONE HISTORICALLY ANY TIME HE HAS FACED ADVERSITY. HAS FACED ADVERSITY. IT IS LIKE THAT LINE THAT STEVE IT IS LIKE THAT LINE THAT STEVE MARTIN HAS AT THE BEGINNING OF, MARTIN HAS AT THE BEGINNING OF, WHERE HE IS LOOKING AT THE JUDGE WHERE HE IS LOOKING AT THE JUDGE AND I DIDN’T KNOW ARMED ROBBERY AND I DIDN’T KNOW ARMED ROBBERY WAS A CRIME, YOU KNOW. WAS A CRIME, YOU KNOW.>>THAT’S EXACTLY RIGHT.>>THAT’S EXACTLY RIGHT.>>AND THAT’S WHAT TRUMP IS>>AND THAT’S WHAT TRUMP IS TRYING TO DO. TRYING TO DO. ON THE OTHER HAND, HE ALSO KNOWS ON THE OTHER HAND, HE ALSO KNOWS THAT HE HAS A PARTY THAT IS THAT HE HAS A PARTY THAT IS GOING TO TRY THIS IN THE SENATE GOING TO TRY THIS IN THE SENATE BUT IS UNLIKELY TO REMOVE HIM BUT IS UNLIKELY TO REMOVE HIM FROM OFFICE. FROM OFFICE. AND I THINK THE ISSUE HERE IS AND I THINK THE ISSUE HERE IS THE FACT PATTERN THAT HAS THE FACT PATTERN THAT HAS EMERGED AND THE EVIDENCE THAT EMERGED AND THE EVIDENCE THAT HAS EMERGED, ENOUGH TO REMOVE HAS EMERGED, ENOUGH TO REMOVE HIM FROM OFFICE. HIM FROM OFFICE. AND I DON’T KNOW THAT WE’RE AND I DON’T KNOW THAT WE’RE THERE YET. THERE YET. I THINK IT IS DAMNING. I THINK IT IS DAMNING. I THINK HE ABUSED THE POWERS OF I THINK HE ABUSED THE POWERS OF HIS OFFICE. HIS OFFICE. THERE IS EVIDENCE OF EXTORTION THERE IS EVIDENCE OF EXTORTION AND BRIBERY AROUND THIS. AND BRIBERY AROUND THIS. THERE’S OTHER SHOES TO DROP. THERE’S OTHER SHOES TO DROP. THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT IS THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT IS CLEARLY, HAS A MAJOR CLEARLY, HAS A MAJOR INVESTIGATION OF RUDY GIULIANI. INVESTIGATION OF RUDY GIULIANI. AND HIS ASSOCIATES. AND HIS ASSOCIATES. AND THERE’S ALSO MONEY IN PLAY. AND THERE’S ALSO MONEY IN PLAY. WE STILL HAVEN’T HEARD WE STILL HAVEN’T HEARD EVERYTHING ABOUT THE EFFORT TO EVERYTHING ABOUT THE EFFORT TO GET CONTROL OF THE UKRAINIAN GET CONTROL OF THE UKRAINIAN NATURAL GAS COMPANY. NATURAL GAS COMPANY. SO THERE IS OTHER THINGS THAT SO THERE IS OTHER THINGS THAT COULD COME OUT THAT HAVEN’T COME COULD COME OUT THAT HAVEN’T COME OUT YET. OUT YET. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK HE IS SITTING THERE, AND THINK HE IS SITTING THERE, AND HIS MIND IS TURNING WHERE DOES HIS MIND IS TURNING WHERE DOES IT GO TO THE END AND IT GOES TO IT GO TO THE END AND IT GOES TO THE END HE HAS A GROUP OF PEOPLE THE END HE HAS A GROUP OF PEOPLE READY TO EXONERATE HIM AND I READY TO EXONERATE HIM AND I THINK THAT’S WHY HE IS TAKING THINK THAT’S WHY HE IS TAKING THE RISK OF SITTING DOWN AND THE RISK OF SITTING DOWN AND READING THE TRANSCRIPT IN A LIVE READING THE TRANSCRIPT IN A LIVE EVENT, A DOCUMENT THAT ON ITS EVENT, A DOCUMENT THAT ON ITS FACE IS SELF INCRIMINATING. FACE IS SELF INCRIMINATING.>>I HEARD TODAY, THAT THE>>I HEARD TODAY, THAT THE PERSON RUNNING THE POLITICAL PERSON RUNNING THE POLITICAL COMMUNICATIONS AND LEGAL COMMUNICATIONS AND LEGAL STRATEGY FOR THE PRESIDENT IS STRATEGY FOR THE PRESIDENT IS THE SAME WHITE HOUSE STAFFER WHO THE SAME WHITE HOUSE STAFFER WHO BROUGHT US THE GOVERNMENT BROUGHT US THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN, JARED KUSHNER. SHUTDOWN, JARED KUSHNER. HE DOESN’T HAVE GREAT HE DOESN’T HAVE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS ON CAPITOL HILL, RELATIONSHIPS ON CAPITOL HILL, DOES HE? DOES HE?>>NO, NO, HE DOESN’T.>>NO, NO, HE DOESN’T. AND I THINK I ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT AND I THINK I ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THE STRATEGY IS, THOUGH, I IF HE THE STRATEGY IS, THOUGH, I IF HE DOES THIS FIRESIDE CHAT, THEY DOES THIS FIRESIDE CHAT, THEY WILL RUN A DISCLAIMER AT THE WILL RUN A DISCLAIMER AT THE BEGINNING WHICH SAYS WHAT YOU BEGINNING WHICH SAYS WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO HEAR IS NOT A QUID ARE ABOUT TO HEAR IS NOT A QUID PRO QUO. PRO QUO. BECAUSE EVERYBODY WHO HAS COME BECAUSE EVERYBODY WHO HAS COME IN TO THESE DEPOSITIONS HAS IN TO THESE DEPOSITIONS HAS OUTLINED THE DEFINITION, OUTLINED THE DEFINITION, TEXTBOOK DEFINITION, OF A QUID TEXTBOOK DEFINITION, OF A QUID PRO QUO. PRO QUO. AND TWO OF THEM NOW, THAT WAS AND TWO OF THEM NOW, THAT WAS THE ONE STAFF THAT WASN’T ON THE ONE STAFF THAT WASN’T ON THERE, TWO OF THEM WHO ARE THERE, TWO OF THEM WHO ARE ACTUALLY DIRECTLY ON THE PHONE ACTUALLY DIRECTLY ON THE PHONE CALL. CALL. BUT I’VE BEEN UP ON THE HILL ALL BUT I’VE BEEN UP ON THE HILL ALL WEEK, AND IT SEEMS THAT THE WEEK, AND IT SEEMS THAT THE ARGUMENTS ON SUBSTANCE, THAT ARGUMENTS ON SUBSTANCE, THAT WERE MADE IN THE VERY BEGINNING, WERE MADE IN THE VERY BEGINNING, WHICH WERE THIS WAS NOT A QUID WHICH WERE THIS WAS NOT A QUID PRO QUO, OR AT LEAST THE PRO QUO, OR AT LEAST THE UKRAINIANS DIDN’T KNOW IT WAS A UKRAINIANS DIDN’T KNOW IT WAS A QUID PRO QUO, HAVE BEEN QUID PRO QUO, HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY BLOWN UP BY ALL OF COMPLETELY BLOWN UP BY ALL OF THIS TESTIMONY. THIS TESTIMONY. AND YOU HAD MORRISON HIMSELF, AS AND YOU HAD MORRISON HIMSELF, AS WELL, SAYING YES, IT WAS WELL, SAYING YES, IT WAS CONVEYED TO ZELENSKY’S TOP AIDE, CONVEYED TO ZELENSKY’S TOP AIDE, THAT THIS WAS IN FACT, A QUID THAT THIS WAS IN FACT, A QUID PRO QUO. PRO QUO. WHETHER YOU WANT TO CALL IT A WHETHER YOU WANT TO CALL IT A QUID PRO QUO, YOU WANT TO CALL QUID PRO QUO, YOU WANT TO CALL IT A DRUG DEAL LIKE JOHN BOLTON IT A DRUG DEAL LIKE JOHN BOLTON CALLS IT, THESE ARE ALL THINGS CALLS IT, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT ACCORDING TO THE DEMOCRATS THAT ACCORDING TO THE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE WORKING ON THE LEGAL WHO ARE WORKING ON THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK OF THIS, THEY SAY THEY FRAMEWORK OF THIS, THEY SAY THEY DON’T JUST FIT ONE POTENTIAL DON’T JUST FIT ONE POTENTIAL ARTICLE. ARTICLE. THEY ARE THE DEFINITION OF WHAT THEY ARE THE DEFINITION OF WHAT OUR FOUNDERS WERE CONCERNED OUR FOUNDERS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT, IN TERMS OF WHAT IS AN ABOUT, IN TERMS OF WHAT IS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE. IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN OUR THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN OUR HISTORY THAT WE HAVE HAD A HISTORY THAT WE HAVE HAD A PRESIDENT, EVEN TALKING ABOUT PRESIDENT, EVEN TALKING ABOUT IMPEACHMENT OF A PRESIDENT, IMPEACHMENT OF A PRESIDENT, RELATED TO FOREIGN INFLUENCE. RELATED TO FOREIGN INFLUENCE. WHICH WAS, WHICH SPEAKS TO ONE WHICH WAS, WHICH SPEAKS TO ONE OF THE DEEPEST CONCERNS ABOUT OF THE DEEPEST CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT COULD BE, CORRUPTING OUR WHAT COULD BE, CORRUPTING OUR DEMOCRACY. DEMOCRACY.>>YOU KNOW, PETER BAKER, I HAVE>>YOU KNOW, PETER BAKER, I HAVE 37 QUESTIONS FOR YOU, BUT I’LL 37 QUESTIONS FOR YOU, BUT I’LL FOCUS IT ON JUST A COUPLE. FOCUS IT ON JUST A COUPLE. I MEAN WHAT IS SO INTERESTING I MEAN WHAT IS SO INTERESTING NOW, IS YOU LOOK AT THE ROLE DON NOW, IS YOU LOOK AT THE ROLE DON McGAHN PLAYED IN THE MUELLER McGAHN PLAYED IN THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION, AND YOU WONDER IF INVESTIGATION, AND YOU WONDER IF MR. EISENBERG IS FACED WITH A MR. EISENBERG IS FACED WITH A SHAL CHOICE. SHAL CHOICE. DON McGAHN COOPERATED, CLOSE TO DON McGAHN COOPERATED, CLOSE TO 30 HOURS AND NOT THAT HE WANTED 30 HOURS AND NOT THAT HE WANTED TO BUT LEGALLY HE DIDN’T THINK TO BUT LEGALLY HE DIDN’T THINK HE SHOULD BUT THE DECISION WAS HE SHOULD BUT THE DECISION WAS MADE BY THE PRESIDENT A ES LEGAL MADE BY THE PRESIDENT A ES LEGAL TERM. TERM. MR. EISENBERG HAS BEEN MR. EISENBERG HAS BEEN IMPLICATED BY VINDMAN, WHO SAID IMPLICATED BY VINDMAN, WHO SAID THAT HE WENT TO HIM, BECAUSE HE THAT HE WENT TO HIM, BECAUSE HE WAS SO UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT THE WAS SO UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO FILL IN PROCESS OF TRYING TO FILL IN SOME INFORMATION FROM THE CALL, SOME INFORMATION FROM THE CALL, INCLUDING THE UTTER RANCE OF THE INCLUDING THE UTTER RANCE OF THE WORD BURISMA THE GAS COMPANY WORD BURISMA THE GAS COMPANY WHERE HUNTER BIDEN WORK, AND WE WHERE HUNTER BIDEN WORK, AND WE KNOW THAT FIONA HILL WAS SENT BY KNOW THAT FIONA HILL WAS SENT BY JOHN BOLTON TO MR. EISENBERG. JOHN BOLTON TO MR. EISENBERG. THERE IS SOME REPORTING OUT THERE IS SOME REPORTING OUT TODAY IN THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, TODAY IN THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, AND “POLITICO,” THAT JUST AND “POLITICO,” THAT JUST INCREASINGLY PUTS THESE CIRCLES INCREASINGLY PUTS THESE CIRCLES OF THESE PRESSURES AROUND MR. OF THESE PRESSURES AROUND MR. EISENBERG. EISENBERG. WHAT’S YOUR UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT’S YOUR UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHO THE WHITE HOUSE IS SETTING WHO THE WHITE HOUSE IS SETTING UP TO TAKE THE BLAME FOR SOME OF UP TO TAKE THE BLAME FOR SOME OF THE ACTIONS THAT LOOK FROM THE THE ACTIONS THAT LOOK FROM THE OUTSIDE LIKE A COVERUP? OUTSIDE LIKE A COVERUP?>>IT’S A GREAT QUESTION.>>IT’S A GREAT QUESTION. IN FACT, I THINK OTHER THAN JOHN IN FACT, I THINK OTHER THAN JOHN BOLTON, AND MAYBE MICK MULVANEY, BOLTON, AND MAYBE MICK MULVANEY, THE ONE PERSON I THINK YOU WANT THE ONE PERSON I THINK YOU WANT TO HEAR THE MOST FROM IS JOHN TO HEAR THE MOST FROM IS JOHN EISENBERG. EISENBERG. NOT ONLY AS YOU JUST PUT IT WAS NOT ONLY AS YOU JUST PUT IT WAS HE CONTACTED BY AT LEAST TWO WE HE CONTACTED BY AT LEAST TWO WE KNOW SO FAR WHITE HOUSE KNOW SO FAR WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS WITH CONCERNS ABOUT OFFICIALS WITH CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON, THE PROPRIETY WHAT WAS GOING ON, THE PROPRIETY OF WHAT WAS GOING ON BUT HE WAS OF WHAT WAS GOING ON BUT HE WAS ALSO THE ONE WHO APPROVED ALSO THE ONE WHO APPROVED PUTTING IT IN THE SUPER LASS PUTTING IT IN THE SUPER LASS FIED SERVER, SUPER CLASSIFIED FIED SERVER, SUPER CLASSIFIED SERVER, THE ROUGH TRANSCRIPT TO SERVER, THE ROUGH TRANSCRIPT TO BEGIN WITH AND WHAT WAS HIS BEGIN WITH AND WHAT WAS HIS THINKING WHEN HE DID THAT, HIS THINKING WHEN HE DID THAT, HIS RATIONALE AND WHAT WAS HIS RATIONALE AND WHAT WAS HIS REACTION WHEN COLONEL VINDMAN REACTION WHEN COLONEL VINDMAN AND FEE ON OWEWE THAT HILL CAME AND FEE ON OWEWE THAT HILL CAME HIM. HIM. WHO DID HE TALK ABOUT IT? WHO DID HE TALK ABOUT IT? AND SO MANY QUESTIONS NEED TO BE AND SO MANY QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ASKED. ASKED. HE IS IN THE HOT SPOT AND HE HE IS IN THE HOT SPOT AND HE COULD BE THE PERSON WHO COMES COULD BE THE PERSON WHO COMES OUT AND BE THROWN UNDER THE BUS OUT AND BE THROWN UNDER THE BUS AS THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE AND AS THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE AND COULD BE A JOHN DEAN AND I COULD BE A JOHN DEAN AND I RAISED QUESTIONS AND HERE IS RAISED QUESTIONS AND HERE IS WHAT HAPPENED AS A RESULT. WHAT HAPPENED AS A RESULT. WE DON’T KNOW. WE DON’T KNOW. AND I THINK THAT MAKES HIM ONE AND I THINK THAT MAKES HIM ONE OF MOST INTRIGUING CHARACTERS OF MOST INTRIGUING CHARACTERS YET TO BE HEARD FROM, IN THIS YET TO BE HEARD FROM, IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS. WHOLE PROCESS.>>AND HE’S BEEN INVITED I>>AND HE’S BEEN INVITED I BELIEVE, JOYCE, TO TESTIFY NEXT BELIEVE, JOYCE, TO TESTIFY NEXT WEEK, NO SIGN AS TO WHETHER OR WEEK, NO SIGN AS TO WHETHER OR NOT HE WILL APPEAR. NOT HE WILL APPEAR. I THINK IT IS SAFE TO ASSUME I THINK IT IS SAFE TO ASSUME THAT THERE WILL BE SOME THAT THERE WILL BE SOME RESISTANCE, AT LEAST AT THE RESISTANCE, AT LEAST AT THE OUTSET. OUTSET. JOYCE, LET ME READ YOU SOME OF JOYCE, LET ME READ YOU SOME OF THE NEW REPORTING FROM THE NEW REPORTING FROM “POLITICO” ABOUT MR. EISENBERG. “POLITICO” ABOUT MR. EISENBERG. THE SENIOR WHITE HOUSE LAWYER THE SENIOR WHITE HOUSE LAWYER WHO PLACED A RECORD OF PRESIDENT WHO PLACED A RECORD OF PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP’S JULY 25th CALL DONALD TRUMP’S JULY 25th CALL WITH UKRAINE’S PRESIDENT IN A WITH UKRAINE’S PRESIDENT IN A TOP SECRET SYSTEM ALSO TOP SECRET SYSTEM ALSO INSTRUCTED AT LEAST ONE OFFICIAL INSTRUCTED AT LEAST ONE OFFICIAL WHO HEARD THE CALL NOT TO TELL WHO HEARD THE CALL NOT TO TELL ANYONE ABOUT IT. ANYONE ABOUT IT. THAT’S ACCORDING TO TESTIMONY THAT’S ACCORDING TO TESTIMONY HEARD BY HOUSE IMPEACHMENT HEARD BY HOUSE IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATORS THIS WEEK. INVESTIGATORS THIS WEEK. JOYCE, WHAT’S THAT SAY TO YOU? JOYCE, WHAT’S THAT SAY TO YOU? WHAT DOES THAT SOUND LIKE TO WHAT DOES THAT SOUND LIKE TO YOU? YOU?>>SO HE’S A WITNESS THAT I>>SO HE’S A WITNESS THAT I WOULD WANT TO TALK TO, IN AN WOULD WANT TO TALK TO, IN AN EFFORT TO SORT THIS OUT, AND EFFORT TO SORT THIS OUT, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT ACTUALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED. HAPPENED. PLACING THIS PHONE CALL ON THE PLACING THIS PHONE CALL ON THE CODE WORD SERVER, WHICH WAS NOT CODE WORD SERVER, WHICH WAS NOT THE ORDINARY WAY THAT THESE THE ORDINARY WAY THAT THESE MEMOS WERE STORED, LOOKS VERY MEMOS WERE STORED, LOOKS VERY BAD, AND IT IS THERE FOR ONE OF BAD, AND IT IS THERE FOR ONE OF TWO REASONS. TWO REASONS. EITHER HE WANTED TO HIDE IT FROM EITHER HE WANTED TO HIDE IT FROM PEOPLE, OR PERHAPS THERE’S AN PEOPLE, OR PERHAPS THERE’S AN OUTSIDE CHANCE THAT HE WANTED TO OUTSIDE CHANCE THAT HE WANTED TO PRESERVE IT, TO MAKE SURE OTHERS PRESERVE IT, TO MAKE SURE OTHERS DIDN’T DESTROY IT. DIDN’T DESTROY IT. BUT HE IS A LAWYER, HE WILL KNOW BUT HE IS A LAWYER, HE WILL KNOW WHEN HE COMES IN, THAT HE HAS WHEN HE COMES IN, THAT HE HAS ONE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL THE ONE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL THE TRUTH AND ONLY ONE OPPORTUNITY, TRUTH AND ONLY ONE OPPORTUNITY, AND ALTHOUGH YOU KNOW, WE HEAR AND ALTHOUGH YOU KNOW, WE HEAR THIS STORY, THAT THIS CONDUCT THIS STORY, THAT THIS CONDUCT DOESN’T ADD UP TO A QUID PRO DOESN’T ADD UP TO A QUID PRO QUO, FROM AT LEAST ONE WITNESS, QUO, FROM AT LEAST ONE WITNESS, NOW, I KNOW THAT WHEN FRANK NOW, I KNOW THAT WHEN FRANK FIGLIUZZI WAS OUT IN THE FIELD FIGLIUZZI WAS OUT IN THE FIELD INVESTIGATING BRIBERY CASES, HE INVESTIGATING BRIBERY CASES, HE NEVER HEARD WITNESSES TELL HIM NEVER HEARD WITNESSES TELL HIM ABOUT A SERIES OF FACTS THAT ABOUT A SERIES OF FACTS THAT LOOKED LIKE A QUID PRO QUO AND LOOKED LIKE A QUID PRO QUO AND THEN ACCEPTED THEIR THEN ACCEPTED THEIR CHARACTERIZATION THAT NO CRIME CHARACTERIZATION THAT NO CRIME HAD BEEN COMMITTED. HAD BEEN COMMITTED. I’M PRETTY SURE THAT’S NOT HOW I’M PRETTY SURE THAT’S NOT HOW FRANK OPERATED. FRANK OPERATED. THAT’S NOT HOW THESE THAT’S NOT HOW THESE INVESTIGATORS WILL OPERATE, INVESTIGATORS WILL OPERATE, EITHER. EITHER. THEY’RE JUST INTERESTED IN THE THEY’RE JUST INTERESTED IN THE FACTS. FACTS. NOT THE LEGAL CHARACTERIZATIONS NOT THE LEGAL CHARACTERIZATIONS EVEN FROM A LAWYER. EVEN FROM A LAWYER. IT IS HIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME IT IS HIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME CLEAN. CLEAN.>>FRANK, YOUR NAME HAS BEEN>>FRANK, YOUR NAME HAS BEEN INVOKED. INVOKED. I WANT TO ADD ONE MORE PIECE OF I WANT TO ADD ONE MORE PIECE OF INFORMATION TO THIS PUZZLE THAT INFORMATION TO THIS PUZZLE THAT SOME PIECES ARE BEING PLACED ON SOME PIECES ARE BEING PLACED ON THE BOARD AROUND MR. EISENBERG. THE BOARD AROUND MR. EISENBERG. HE IS ALSO THE LAWYER WHO IS THE HE IS ALSO THE LAWYER WHO IS THE GENERAL COUNSEL AT THE CIA, GENERAL COUNSEL AT THE CIA, PICKED UP THE PHONE AND CALLED, PICKED UP THE PHONE AND CALLED, WHEN SHE LEARNED THAT SHE HAD A WHEN SHE LEARNED THAT SHE HAD A WHISTLE-BLOWER IN HER WORK WHISTLE-BLOWER IN HER WORK FORCE, SHE ALSO ULTIMATELY FORCE, SHE ALSO ULTIMATELY CALLED THIS MAN, MR. EISENBERG, CALLED THIS MAN, MR. EISENBERG, AND THEY LOOKED AT THESE NOTES, AND THEY LOOKED AT THESE NOTES, I DON’T KNOW, HE WENT IN THERE, I DON’T KNOW, HE WENT IN THERE, CRACKED THE DEEP SECRET SERVER, CRACKED THE DEEP SECRET SERVER, AND THEY LOOKED AT IT AND IT HAS AND THEY LOOKED AT IT AND IT HAS BEEN REPORTED BY PETER’S NEW BEEN REPORTED BY PETER’S NEW PORT RICHEY, COLUMN AND PORT RICHEY, COLUMN AND NEWSPAPER. NEWSPAPER. AND IT IS PART OF THE ORIGINAL AND IT IS PART OF THE ORIGINAL WHISTLE-BLOWER CONCERN, AS WELL WHISTLE-BLOWER CONCERN, AS WELL AS THE NSC STAFFERS WHO TRIED TO AS THE NSC STAFFERS WHO TRIED TO FILL IN THE TRANSCRIPT, AND FILL IN THE TRANSCRIPT, AND FIONA HILL WHO SAT IN A MEETING FIONA HILL WHO SAT IN A MEETING IN THE WARD ROOM, WHICH IS IN IN THE WARD ROOM, WHICH IS IN THE BASEMENT OF THE WEST WING, THE BASEMENT OF THE WEST WING, NEXT TO THE CAFETERIA, IF YOU NEXT TO THE CAFETERIA, IF YOU WILL, THE DINING ROOM AND HEARD WILL, THE DINING ROOM AND HEARD GORDON SONDLAND CONDITION, OR GORDON SONDLAND CONDITION, OR RAISE THESE INVESTIGATIONS WITH RAISE THESE INVESTIGATIONS WITH THE UKRAINIANS. THE UKRAINIANS. THIS WOULD SEEM TO BE THE PERSON THIS WOULD SEEM TO BE THE PERSON THAT THE WHITE HOUSE IS SETTING THAT THE WHITE HOUSE IS SETTING UP TO MAYBE TAKE A FALL. UP TO MAYBE TAKE A FALL. NO? NO?>>IT’S POSSIBLE BUT IT IS A>>IT’S POSSIBLE BUT IT IS A DANGEROUS GAME. DANGEROUS GAME. BECAUSE YOU’RE GAMBLING THAT BECAUSE YOU’RE GAMBLING THAT THIS PERSON IS GOING TO GO DOWN THIS PERSON IS GOING TO GO DOWN FOR THE COUNT FOR YOU. FOR THE COUNT FOR YOU. AND THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE AND THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE THAT SEEM WILLING TO DO THAT THAT SEEM WILLING TO DO THAT THESE DAYS. THESE DAYS. LOOK, JOYCE IS RIGHT, IT’S ALL LOOK, JOYCE IS RIGHT, IT’S ALL ABOUT CONTEXT WHEN YOU’RE ABOUT CONTEXT WHEN YOU’RE WORKING CORRUPTION. WORKING CORRUPTION. IT’S ALL ABOUT CIRCUMSTANCES. IT’S ALL ABOUT CIRCUMSTANCES. AND WHEN YOU RATTLE OFF WHAT YOU AND WHEN YOU RATTLE OFF WHAT YOU JUST DID, IT’S THE CONTEXT THAT JUST DID, IT’S THE CONTEXT THAT COUNTS. COUNTS. IT’S THE CONSCIOUSNESS OF GUILT. IT’S THE CONSCIOUSNESS OF GUILT. IF TWO GUYS ROB A BANK AND THEY IF TWO GUYS ROB A BANK AND THEY HIDE THE MONEY, AND THEN THEY HIDE THE MONEY, AND THEN THEY LATER RELEASE THE MONEY, I HEAR LATER RELEASE THE MONEY, I HEAR PEOPLE SAYING, WELL, HOW BAD CAN PEOPLE SAYING, WELL, HOW BAD CAN THIS CALL BE, IF THEY RELEASED A THIS CALL BE, IF THEY RELEASED A SUMMARY OF IT, YOU RELEASE THE SUMMARY OF IT, YOU RELEASE THE BANK ROBBERY MONEY, IT DOESN’T BANK ROBBERY MONEY, IT DOESN’T MEAN YOU’RE INNOCENT, OF BANK MEAN YOU’RE INNOCENT, OF BANK ROBBERY, IT MEANS YOU GOT ROBBERY, IT MEANS YOU GOT CAUGHT. CAUGHT. THAT’S WHY THEY RELEASED THE THAT’S WHY THEY RELEASED THE SUMMARY OF THIS THING. SUMMARY OF THIS THING. SO THE CHRONOLOGY OF EVENTS SO THE CHRONOLOGY OF EVENTS BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT. BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT. WHEN DID THE CIA GENERAL COUNSEL WHEN DID THE CIA GENERAL COUNSEL CALL OVER? CALL OVER? WHEN DID A DECORATED MILITARY WHEN DID A DECORATED MILITARY VETERAN SAY I HAVE A PROBLEM VETERAN SAY I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS? WITH THIS? LET’S GET ALL OF THAT DOWN. LET’S GET ALL OF THAT DOWN. WHO WENT INTO THE DATABASE AT WHO WENT INTO THE DATABASE AT WHAT TIME TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK WHAT TIME TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT. AT IT. WHEN DID IT FIRST GO IN? WHEN DID IT FIRST GO IN? THESE BECOME REALLY IMPORTANT

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  1. ONE MORE Thing TRUMP is designed to WIN – against all odds – think about it – His last name TRUMP – you will be Trumped – although Trump is above the law – he will trump you down – you will be trumped – he does hold the Trump Card – – love him or hate him we all got Trumped – fools – on a hill you all are –

  2. Donneriha the great! Loved you in the show 24. Wait that was Kiefer Southerland. You were in 24 cups of queef as Queefer Southerland. Owner of Biglots

  3. Trump is getting desperate, as he feels Impeachment close around him, he'll never be more desperate and he'll never be more dangerous. This is a man who will do anything to stay in power because that's his only hope to avoiding prosecution when he leaves office.

  4. Thanks, Nicolle Wallace, Deadline Team, and Panel. The segment brought up important points not necessarily clear to all. First, the timeline. John Eisenberg and Pat Cippolone sequestered the real transcript and call on July 29th, right after the CIA Counsel’s call to the WH, that a whistleblower complaint was in the making, as WaPo and Politico, etc., have confirmed. Second, Trumpie’s deranged arrogance, relying on his support from Repugnithug Leadership on the Hill, to cover for a fake narrative he touts with a “Fireside Chat.” Let the crook try!

  5. The fact remains, as you briefly mentioned, that Zelensky demonstrably knew EXACTLY what “favor” Trumpie was asking, when Volodymyr mentioned “Burisma,” not “that company you spoke about,” as the “Transcript Summary” Trumpie wants to read to the public falsely puts it!

  6. Fireside chat like Barr on Mueller Report? Will he wear a vest and plaid shirt too? Fireside facade! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

  7. People have heard it that is why impeachment was started, there is something very wrong with Trumps mind. I think he believes he is still on his reality show.

  8. Be careful what you wish for.. Okay, go ahead and put your warped psychopath twist on it!!! To help seal your fate and the fate of your GOP/Republican cohorts!!! BERNIE 2020!!!

  9. Let’s call it what it really is, bribery/Extortion!!!

    Looking to the future. I vote, ‘Bryan Cranston’ to play DJT in the movie!!! Popcorn in hand!!!!

  10. This is not an impeach ment. This only an inditment. Senate impeachs not house. And they won't. This is all slanderous. Theater. for the stupid. Smart people will vote for trump

  11. I read all the responses under krells10, but I guess in some ways it doesn't matter as to how or whom anyone would put my response to under this feed. But here is how I see things. First, let me say, I am not a Dem/Liberal voter. I guess since Trump, you could kind of say I'm an Independent. Simply because I cannot like this phoney croney of a con man. But the bottom line is that he is definitely guilty of something.

    As I have been following him and his WH and his policies etc. There are actually many things in which he is guilty of under our Constitution. But Now for, this particular crime and yes, what he did here with Ukraine is a crime in many instances. And I don't care what you may want to call it, but "quid pro quo" does fit under this situation because even as simple as quid pro quo sounds defind as a favor for a favor, this was favor per favor between two countries. And the subject/country in this case Mr Trump as president of US setting the terms for the favor per favor is the rather guilty party. That's two crimes on his behalf right there. And we all know and understand what his favor was so, I'm not going to reiterate.

    But here is what I think pertaining to the call itself or in his case the summary of the call, in my opinion, in my mind, my minds eye, what have you; it is quite obvious the "quid pro quo" did absolutely take place. Here in the simplest of all manners in human nature is a conversation between two people, doesn't matter how many were listening in, but the asking party of the initial favor repeats himself at least two or three times "NO" there is no quid pro quo. With an emphasis put on that first no, in common everyday human language, no matter what country's language, that what there tells you, an absolute yes it was a quid pro quo. It's that plain, that simple, doesn't take a professional from any field of study to tell you that. So, Trump and everyone of his constituents can deny all they want, but it is so obvious and clear for anyone to see that, your average 5th grade student could see that. But it's going to turn out the way it's going to turn out, it's a case quite comparable to that of OJ's murder trial.

    But I believe, no matter how it ends, it's going to be bad on American politics for a long time to come, the damage has already been done. Just the fact of Trump having been elected was damaging enough, I mean look at the further divide of our country after that which Obama had done and Trump's divisiveness has caused a great divide in the Church. So, I do not think God is going to let this one go away so easily, I think He has already been quite frustrated and angry with America for a long time now. Christ's return may be all some Americans have to look forward to now.

  12. I'm an older veteran. Was a demacrat. I won't vote for socialism. I'll stay home or vote for trump. Demacrats want to remake America into a Marxist country like Cuba.

  13. How about Trump's Tax issues, get them even more effective too Mob dealings, Russian funding while in debt because US Banks did not want anything to deal with in with new loans?

  14. I've done the reversals on Adam Schiff and he admits that the entire impeachment claim is a "shanda". The term shanda is only used among the Jews to define a scam or scandal as a serious sin, which isn't applied to non-Jews. Adam Schiff's second person (subconscious) has clearly thrown Adam Schiff's first person (conscious) under the bus.

  15. trump wants to read the call "summary". He doesn't want to read the accurate call verbatim. For the benefit of you trump supporters, verbatim means word for word.

  16. Oan published his name. https://youtu.be/kOkETJPGn50

    The Dems cost us money every single day probably a few million each day of special session to NEVER be able to impeach and nullify our votes. Wow

    #TRUMP2020 #GodIsGreat #TheGreatAwakening #KAG2020 #QSentMe

  17. "I made an excellent phone call. It's the best. It's perfect. Amazing. I'm a genius. I committed crimes against America in the most brilliant way ever." — Traitor Trump

  18. The only fireside chat I want to see Trump part of is the one where he's being roasted on a spit like the pig that he is

  19. He always promises "you'll see" and then lets whatever issue he's referring to get swept away by the next controversy

  20. The hiddin server clearly shows there was a crime committed. If there was nothing wrong, then why hide the call? That is the simplest explination to get the morons in the REPUBLICAN cult to understand this was a crime!

  21. I love how the democrats try so hard to find proof of Trump violating the constitution. Sadly, the only proof they have is a matter of opinion about the phone call with the Ukrainian President. In no way whatsoever did Trump pressure him in any way, shape or form and for the most part were very respectful to one another. The Democrats know Trump can sometimes be "stupid" when he talks, but he gets the job done and has done more than any other Democratic President which has been in office for the last 20 years. With trump's election, he has built jobs, brought down ISIS, sent troops out of the Middle East and tries to make good relationships with other countries like North Korea. Tell me, is it better to nurture a baby (Kim Jong Un for those who can't read) or let the baby do his own thing and continue to Militarize the country and sour relations with Japan and South Korea and risk open war. Most of the populace would say don't make friends with him, he is not our concern. BUT HE IS our concern, and you would think the same if you were making all the decisions as President. Since the dawn of American Politics, it's always been the Democrats clawing at the Republicans for power and viceversa. Oh and I'll link the transcript of the conversation Trump had with the Ukrainian President. LMAO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBXnmMf9IU4

  22. Hope the Republican Senators realize that not following actual evidence of Trump criminal actions and actual facts of wrong doing and letting trump get away with these actions will cost them their next election bid. American citizens supposedly have short attention spans and the politicians are counting on this, but what happens when your opponent says, " Google what these Republicans did for trump"??? Defeat.

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