Lies The Motley Crue Movie Told You


Motley Crue is one of the most notoriously
dangerous rock bands in history, so when the
trailer for the Netflix movie based on The
Dirt memoir proclaimed: “This story is true,”
it was easy to expect a brutally honest story.
And while the Motley Crue movie is close,
it’s not all the way there.
The Dirt dances artfully around the subject
of Motley Crue singers not named Vince Neil,
and it doesn’t even bother mentioning the
band’s first singer.
As Loudwire notes, before Crue could get Neil
locked in, they were in the market for other
singers and eventually found a man named O’Dean.
Although they recorded a demo with him, the
match wasn’t exactly made in heaven.
In the book version of The Dirt, Tommy Lee
describes O’Dean as a round and rather simple
man who was a wonderful singer.
Unfortunately, Nikki Sixx became furious with
the singer because of his weird habit of constantly
wearing a pair of white gloves that he refused
to remove even when he was supposed to clap
in the background of a song.
If conflicts with Sixx weren’t enough to oust
O’Dean from the band, Mick Mars also had plenty
of beef with him.
Mars made it clear he hated O’Dean’s guts
because he thought the singer was a fat hippie.
The movie actually uses some of Mars’ colorful
opinions about their first singer in the scene
where Mars verbally eviscerates a portly rhythm
guitarist also auditioning for the group.
“There’s only room for one guitar player in
this band, and that’s me, so why don’t you
pack up your toys and go home.”
In The Dirt, Tommy Lee meets his idol, Nikki
Sixx from the band London, in a post-show
chance encounter at a diner.
Young Lee nervously introduces himself to
the bass player, the two hit it off, and Lee’s
drumstick spinning skills put him on Sixx’s
radar despite the drummer’s lack of experience
in playing rock, he got his mad spinning skills
from playing in a marching band.
The real story is slightly different.
According to Loudwire, Lee had band experience
before Sixx recruited him for Motley Crue.
He was in a group called Suite 19, and according
to Bang Your Head: The Rise and Fall of Heavy
Metal, Sixx was well aware of this, seeing
as the bassist had unsuccessfully auditioned
for the band twice.
The two actually met through Suite 19 guitarist
Greg Leon, who briefly played with the proto-Motley
Crue before quitting the band, leaving Lee
and Sixx to find a new guitarist.
In The Dirt, recruiting Vince Neil as the
band’s vocalist was easy as pie.
A quick chat with former schoolmate Tommy
Lee and a few seconds of internal debate is
all it takes for the singer to audition.
The biggest conflict comes from Neil’s girlfriend,
who protests that the band plays too hard
until the magic sound of the quartet inevitably
wins her over like only hard rock can.
This is relatively close, but the real Neil
was a tougher customer.
According to Loudwire, the vocalist actually
missed his first audition for Crue, which
caused them to temporarily experiment with
O’Dean on vocals.
When he turned out to be a disaster, Lee pestered
Neil into actually showing up, which he eventually
did with his girlfriend in tow.
She apparently wasn’t a fan, but Neil felt
“screwed over” by his previous band and decided
to join.
When the band went to the studio to make a
demo, Neil had only been in the band for a
couple of days and had to keep a lyric sheet
on hand to record the vocals.
Every great band has to start somewhere, and
as The Dirt shows us, Motley Crue was no exception.
The movie depicts their first gig as a clumsy
affair where they initially almost freeze
onstage despite only performing to a handful
of people.
One dude spits on Vince Neil’s beloved leather
pants, which causes a huge fight between band
members and the crowd.
This is enough to win the audience over, and
Crue’s reputation is as good as made.
According to LA Weekly, their real first concert
at the Starwood Club was a much-hyped, successful
gig opening for an established hard rock band
called Y&T, in a packed venue with a 600-strong
audience.
The more you think about it, the less sense
the movie’s depiction makes.
Nikki Sixx and Tommy Lee were both known on
the scene thanks to their previous bands,
Vince Neil’s ability to take over the stage
was pretty much his entire thing, and Mick
Mars was a veteran of umpteen bands.
They may have been new together, but they
were by no means wet behind the ears.
Game of Thrones star Iwan Rheon’s slightly
off-putting charisma is essential in depicting
Mick Mars, the guitar player who self-medicates
his constant physical pain with booze and
is always slightly tired of his younger bandmates
and their excesses.
“You’re goddamn right I’m old.
Old enough to know better than to waste my
time f—in around with a bunch of rug monkeys.”
Rheon’s Mars is a stoic, sarcastic sage who
only emerges from his bottle to discuss the
band’s artistic direction or make a passing
comment that he, unlike the rest of the band,
greatly respects women and refuses to take
part in general Crue groupie debauchery.
As for the real Mick Mars, well, he’s almost
certainly the most virtuous member of Motley
Crue, if only because the others were always
so happily out of control that an older guy
with serious health issues could hardly hope
to compete.
Still, that doesn’t mean he’s quite as innocent
as The Dirt makes him appear.
In 1985, the real Mars stated in a Georgia
Straight interview that not only are groupies
a blessing but he probably wouldn’t even have
become a musician if it weren’t for them.
Looks like Nikki Sixx may have been right
when he told Louder:
Regardless of how much music he’s contributed
to the world, Nikki Sixx will always be remembered
for his temporary death on December 23rd,
1987.
Naturally, his sort-of fatal heroin overdose
makes it into the movie, but in a fairly condensed
form.
What’s strange, though, is the way The Dirt
shies away from showing just who Sixx was
partying with at the time.
As Ultimate Classic Rock describes, Sixx overdosed
after a hard day of partying with Steven Adler
and Slash from Guns N’ Roses, and Robbin Crosby
from Ratt, for those who remember Ratt.
The failure to mention these particular celebrities
seems odd.
The presence of the Guns N’ Roses crowd in
particular was significant because it may
have played a part in saving Sixx’s life.
Slash’s girlfriend was the person who gave
Sixx mouth-to-mouth resuscitation while the
paramedics made their way to the scene.
The movie leaves out these details and ends
the scene as Sixx passes out.
The only thing hinting at the possible presence
of the Guns N’ Roses folks is a vaguely Slash-like
figure we briefly glimpse lounging on a couch
at the very start of the scene.
One of the events Vince Neil might have liked
The Dirt to gloss over is the infamous death
of Razzle, the Hanoi Rocks drummer who died
when Neil drunkenly crashed his car during
a booze run on December 8th, 1984.
To its credit, the movie doesn’t shy away
from Razzle’s tragic fate, but it still can’t
resist making the whole incident seem a little
less damning than it actually was.
While The Dirt does show Neil with a bottle
of beer in his hand before hopping behind
the wheel, he can hold a coherent enough conversation
to pass for sober, and the whole accident
is made out to be a momentary lapse of attention
due to some delightful banter with the Hanoi
Rocks man.
According to Louder, the real incident was
a significantly harsher look for Neil.
Instead of the mild beer buzz depicted in
the movie, Neil was reportedly “heavily intoxicated”
when he hopped behind the wheel, and instead
of drifting into the wrong lane while deep
in discussion, the Crue singer was swerving
around a stationary firetruck and hit a wet
spot while driving 65 mph in a 25 mph zone.
He hit two incoming cars before coming to
a halt.
When Vince Neil ended his first Motley Crue
tenure in 1992, The Dirt makes it seem like
his main post-band activities include hanging
out in his favorite bar and desperately trying
to cope with the fact that his young daughter
is dying of cancer.
As People magazine reported, the sickness
and death of Neil’s daughter Skylar happened
for real and was absolutely devastating to
the singer.
However, this doesn’t mean Neil spent all
his waking hours focusing on that and feeling
bad for himself.
According to Ultimate Classic Rock, Neil signed
a new solo deal with Warner Brothers pretty
much as soon as he was out of Crue, and his
debut solo single was released the same year.
His first solo album, Exposed, was out in
the spring of 1993, and he embarked on a tour
with Van Halen.
There’s no telling what Neil, or Motley Crue,
for that matter, could have achieved had the
tides of pop culture not turned against them.
As grunge started taking over the world, glam
metal started to become obsolete… and Neil’s
second solo album peaked at a less than respectable
Number 139 on the charts.
In The Dirt, Motley Crue reunites with wayward
vocalist Vince Neil like old friends making
amends after a stupid argument that drove
them apart.
It’s easy, it’s organic, and all it really
takes is a conversation in a bar.
It would be an amazing story, if it were true.
According to Ultimate Classic Rock, Motley
Crue had no intention of letting their new
singer John Corabi go, despite his lackluster
reception by the fans.
Nikki Sixx even vowed that the Corabi-led
Motley Crue would use adversity as fuel and
make the follow-up to their commercially failed
self-titled album from 1994 a true magnum
opus.
Meanwhile, Neil seemed happy with his solo
path, despite dwindling album sales.
No one really wanted a reunion, and it was
actually Motley Crue’s manager and Neil’s
manager who started working together to bring
their clients back into their money-making
original form.
In 1997, their efforts finally bore fruit.
According to Ultimate Classic Rock, a blind-sided
Corabi spent a month as a fifth member of
the band, playing guitar.
Finally, it all just, quote, “kind of stopped,”
and with that, he was out.
As The Dirt mentions during his introduction,
guitarist Mick Mars suffers from a rare form
of arthritis that is slowly fusing his spine
solid and severely affecting his mobility.
In the final moments of the movie, the band
is reunited with Vince Neil, and Mars’ story
receives a small bookend of its own when he
goes through a hip replacement surgery that
restores some of his mobility.
Mars springs out of the hospital as his usually
surly self, but the real road to the operation
was far longer and harder than the movie shows.
“Blah dee blah f—in blah.”
According to Ultimate Classic Rock, Mars was
living in chronic pain for a long time after
Neil rejoined, and when Motley Crue took a
break in the early 2000s he even stopped playing
guitar for a full two years.
When Nikki Sixx sought to reunite the original
quartet in 2004, he was shocked to discover
Mars had turned into a frail wreck of a man
with a severe addiction to painkillers.
His hip replacement operation was part of
digging him out of this rut, but even worse
was the fact that he couldn’t play, or even
hold, the guitar anymore.
He says he had to reacquaint himself with
the instrument with the help of a neuropsychiatrist.
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100 comments

  1. Mick Mars was the whole reason Motley Crue exists. The only reason they sound as good as they do. His guitar.

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  3. Music by kids for kids under heavy direction of producers & record labels seeing dollar signs. Not saying it ain’t fun but really, mediocre musicianship taking advantage of what evolved to become popular. Why keep going playing this stuff ? Gotta respect Chris DeGarmo of Queensryche for moving on in life once his music itch was done.

  4. Hey ! It also left out their parties with virgin up and coming actresses in an occult fashion ! The limo driver is speaking out , plus , they have quite a bit of occult symbolism in their videos ….. They follow Allister Crowley teachings , that's how they got as popular ( cough cough ) as they have .

  5. Been a CrΓΌe fan for years but I always think thought that Vince should have done some actual prison time for killing somebody. I had a dude I know do three years in prison for that minimum for vehicular manslaughter is four years

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  7. What I find hard to believe is that they didn't include how Nikki OD'd twice before he died and was later revived.

  8. said based on the true story…. BASED ON TRUE…. classic Grunge horseshit…. i mean did this shit get you some likes?…. bet it did.. how many of the not true stuff was made for pacing time?… you lost a sub but to be honest this here isnt the first time or the 5th time your horseshit has made me doubt this channel…. not going to dis like this video just going to unsub… eh fucking hell do better and stop point out shit things everyone already knows… i mean 90% of the shit in the dirt that was bullshit the fans of the crue already knew that… it was made for a pacing issues… i mean really this is a shit channel….

  9. Hey. I dont give a rats asssss if they miss something, or got a date wrong or whatever. The fact movies like The Dirt, the Two Nirvana documentaries, The Runaways, Lords of Chaos, etc are on the rise, i hope it will rise some 17/18yr old kids out of their modern music slumber.

  10. I love the movie it’s the best my family loves Motley Crue girls girls girls shout at the devil live wire

  11. I still thought it was a good movie. Even if the events were slightly off or underplayed, it was still an eye opener and showed life lessons to those who will watch it. I enjoyed the movie and will watch it again.

  12. Movie was too poppy. It coulda been alot darker and alot longer say an 8-10 part series with better actors.

  13. "The Dirt" isnt nearly as interesting or drama-filled as their real life run. but it was a purdy good flick. Not bad.****************

  14. All I know when I seen Motley Crue live and they screwed and glued Lee's drums and he was lifted up and came out over the crowd spinning and I was RIGHT under it that was the coolest thing I ever FUCKING SEEN! MOTHERFUCKING POPSICLES
    Kanye West: I'm riding down on a platform elevator πŸ–•
    Tommy Lee: Hold my dick πŸ‘

  15. Motley Crue was and ARE awesome! They, Vince, Nikki, Mick & Tommy are amazingly human & rock legends! 🀘❀πŸ₯³πŸ˜Ž

  16. Read the Dirt first. Then read Vince Neil's book. Then read the Heroin Diaries. Then watch the movie.

  17. First of all, sorry but I just finished watching the movie Jess then a half hour ago… I didn't even know this movie existed lol so pardon my comment being about 3 months late lol

    4:16 – did he just say "run monkeys"? lol…wtf does being a "rug monkey" actually mean???

  18. There was a band called RAT? Who the fuck were they? Did they make any famous songs?… or at least somewhat famous???… Somebody please tell me bc I have no fuckin' clue who RAT is/was lol

  19. Odean the first singer is shown but as a guitarist the Tommy Lee description matches the guy Mick Mars kicks out in the movie. Also when you talk about the Nikki sixx and Tommy Lee meeting maybe the movie watered it down but Tommy Lee mentions sweet 19. Slash and the ratt guy are shown too, slash is asleep on the couch.

  20. They did mention that tommy was in a band called sweet 19, because in the movie mick makes fun of the name

  21. Still enjoyed the movie. The Crue was a big part of my early 20's while serving in the US Army…

  22. It is a movie. Not even really a documentary. It was BASED on their book. I loved it and obviously, Motley Crue did too if you watched the credits yo!

  23. Umm I’m pretty fucking sure everyone watching this video or who at least has a mom remembers RATT

  24. I read the book "The Dirt" in 2βˆ…βˆ…βˆ….
    I had fuck all respect for Motley Crew then and after this abortion of a movie have even less now. The book was awesome due to the fact that these deadshits were some what fictional. I dig Sixx in Sixx AM but Motely Crew were like the poor person's Guns N Roses. Fuck this movie, fuck the shitty actors, fuck anybody who thought this was a good idear and Fuck Motely Crew for fucking up a really good book. Fucking cunts!

  25. The guy playing Mick looks like a bad version of Frankenstein..almost SNL fire bad.
    For Vince, the guy looks more like Randy Rhodes, should had waited for the Ozzy Story…if ever.
    The movie was still cool….35 years in 2 hours lots of misses is expected.

  26. Watchmojo covered it, not here. In the movie, the band got the rights to their music just like that. In real life, it took the failure of Generation Swine for the record company to finally let MC go with their music.

  27. Yeah but you’ve got to remember they’re putting MΓΆtley CrΓΌes career into one 1h45 minute movie and of course there is gonna be parts they miss

  28. I saw a Slash look alike and a blonde guy passed out when that dude (that looks familiar, as in a band member look alike. Sorry I forget who it is, lol) gave Nikki the Persian (heroin)…. so, I suppose it was at least implied. They would obviously have to change or cut some things for the film, as it runs pretty long anyway. I thought it was pretty awesome!

  29. It never said it was true… It clearly stated it was BASED on true story. Wtf u want it to say. Some parts are true… oh wait it did say that. Omg people. I miss the time when people were not total idiots and actually listened and comprehended it.

  30. Well someone obviously doesn't know the difference between lies and fictional addings that make the story colourful

  31. Shit movie and sick of all these fake af teeny boppers who are just getting into them because of this shit movie, when they'll forget alp about them when the movie goes out of trend.

  32. doing destructive shit because you had a hard life isn't justifiable. i don't care if it's rock & roll, just because you're a rock star doesn't mean you can't follow the rules like the rest of us. i feel like the movie glamorized the horrible shit they did.

  33. "IF" we remember Ratt?! If you grew up in the 80's and were a fan of rock music, then of course you know who Ratt is! What a stupid fucking thing to say!!

  34. Tommy said he was in a band sweet 16, plz watch the movie again. And no one knows the true story so fuck your source its a movie so they changed it for a easy flowing movie

  35. Usually im all about these videos but the movie wasn't trying to impersonate every move they made but it was just trying to share a fun story. At the end it was showing scenes only based on what the musicians said and not what was %100 true

  36. Movie didn't mention Sixx was into Black magic. His driver spoke on driving him around Hollywood to attend black masses.

  37. Another slight inaccuracy in the dirt was Skylar herself. She appears in the scene when Vince watches the TV broadcasting Sixx's "death". Sixx overdosed in 1987, but Skylar wasn't born until 1991.

  38. All of these pretty faces look so much better as rockers. I really dig rock guys. And I cannot stop watch this movie, not sure how close they are to the real life motley crue but I love mick mars character

  39. Mane, it's fucking Motely Crue. They turned down more pussy, then you will ever get. Fuck off . 10:30 of bull shit. Talk about Kiss if going to waste air.

  40. seems like there were not any outright lies just minor differences in details…. which is to be expected from any film adaption of anything.

  41. well is hard and "CRUΓ‹L" story, the did real motto, "Sex, Drugs and Rock'n Roll", deadly choice.. well for good or bad shape they did everything, taste the glory and underworld in one time

  42. Thought the movie made them look stupid and dumb.. maybe thats the way it really was.. Stupid and dumb. Thought the the great music of the Crue didn't gel with the acting or the personalities in the movie, and those ridiculous wigs just made it look childish and comical

  43. My PawPaw said Nikki Sixx wrote two good albums and then all the rest were just titty bar music and to be honest that sounds awful good to me.

  44. Man, your clicky bait title says more than you think about your content. A lot of facts that I can read in the book and I don't need people like you trying to underestimate the movie. For me the film is fine. I doesn't matter if lies at some point.
    Other biopics like The Wolf of Wallstreet lies in some facts too.

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